Poll: Toyota Camry or Honda Accord?

Okay, for those of you idiots who complain about Toyota and Lexus refusing to include Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, it's because of 2 reasons. Revenue control and brand identity. Putting all your eggs in the basket of Google and Apple leaves the decision making to them. To put it bluntly, they can charge whatever they want for their product and Toyota/Lexus wants NO parts of that and have elected to develop their own software (in conjunction with Ford). But it's not just Toyota, every major manufacturer is keeping an eye on Apple and Google and are working on their own smartphone connecting software. Android Auto and Apple CarPlay are phases. Toyota just decided to not go through the phase. By next year SmartDeviceLink (the software being developed by Toyota and Ford) will start to appear in new Toyotas. I give Android Auto and Apple CarPlay another 5 years before they completely phased out. Also developing their own infotainment software allows Toyota's Entune 3.0 to look like Toyota's infotainment and not like every other infotainment out there.? As for the NAV part, through Entune 3.0, the 2018 Camry Sedan will also come equipped with Scout GPS Link by Telenav and Xevo Engine Link. This enables drivers to easily transfer the information displayed on their mobile device to the multimedia display inside their car. Scout GPS Link provides a full, cloud-based navigation experience using the in-vehicle display, which includes a fully interactive moving map, intelligent search, voice-guided navigation with turn-by-turn directions optimized for real-time traffic, live ETA with one-tap navigation on the homescreen for key destinations such as home and work, and voice recognition. Scout GPS Link is also integrated with other Entune 3.0 App Suite Connect apps such as Yelp, enabling drivers to navigate to locations seamlessly without switching between apps according to the media and many other people. Your complaint about not being able to get a built-in nav system is pretty stupid. Google Maps and a few others like this are far superior to any built in systems. Literally hook up your phone via Bluetooth or USB, and have it playing audio (Pandora, ITunes, apple music, etc) and the directions will automatically play when they come up. Any car with Bluetooth has this capability, as Apple and Android vehicle systems become more robust and Toyota's Entune 3.0 (being their ACP/AA alternative) is no exception. Built in navigation systems will become even more useless than they are now at this point.

The idiots are the ones who continue to be suckered into Toyota's Entune junk that is among the worst interfaces available on any vehicle. Scout GPS isn't free. After 3 years one has to pay to use it, so don't believe the above propaganda. Scout GPS is just another piece of the Entune garbage Toyota gives to buyers in a sad attempt to interface with a smartphone. Toyota and the Entune junk expect the user to pay for the smartphone, the smartphone data, and offers zero ability to function when there is no cell phone signal. Embedded NAV would function whether cell phone connectivity is available or not and also when one doesn't have a smartphone. So believe all the gimmicks Toyota is trying to bluff you with or get it right the first time and buy a vehicle with a functional infotainment interface.

If you enjoy Apple Carplay and Android auto, avoid a Toyota and their puppet excuses. Almost everyone but Toyota and Mazda have it.

Apple & Android smartphones own 99% of the market yet there are those who will have you believe Toyota's Entune is a better product. Don't be fooled.

It is possible to get CarPlay or Android Auto by buying an aftermarket head unit, and I certainly would do so after the dismal Alpine unit that came with my stock Scion xB. Toyota does many things well, but not infotainment.

Your best bet is to start searching Toyota & Scion forums. I'd recommend toyotanation.com as one source for the Scion, and I'd advise searching Scion forums that might be out there. Car audio forums are likely a potential source for info although I've never searched those. With AA/AC being relatively new in recent years many aftermarket providers are probably playing catch-up. A quick browse of those forums show some like Kenwood do Apple better while others like Pioneer do Android better. Even among auto manufacturers who have adopted AA/AC, there are sometimes interface issues. Example: Honda's CRV has CarPlay volume issues, meanwhile Apple's latest release IOS 11 is causing issues for others where 32-bit apps are involved, among other problems. Many advise staying with Apple's version of 10.3.3 until Apple sorts out the bugs. Things are changing quickly, so do lots of research.

Well put. I will probably stick with my $20 Bluetooth adapter until I find something that works my way (I'm on iOS 11 currently, but as my iPhone 5s is gradually wearing out, I'm probably going to an Android device again.

that kinda defeats the purpose aint it?